Discussion:
Looking For Ari Silverstein
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John Sisker
2010-06-28 03:08:34 UTC
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To Whom It May Concern:

I was hoping not to bring this to the inner workings of this
newsgroup, but since Bonham sent me the following private e-mail, but
with a phony return e-mail address, I seem to have no choice. What I,
and others, now need to find is at the very least the real e-mail
address for Ari Silverstein, or better yet, his actual mailing
address. If anyone can supply such information, you can naturally do
so privately at ***@sprynet.com.

What follows is Ari's private e-mail to me, and below that, my
response back to him. Unfortunately, that response has simply gone to
a bogus e-mail address that he has associated with his dialogue and
apparently with all his posts/threads. Likewise, I am well aware that
there are some out there who feel that I am getting what I deserve
anyway. Yet, this is going far beyond simple opinions and
disagreements, even when communicated with flowerily language and
creative expressions. However, Bonham has chosen to take this to a
very personal vendetta level with the intent to destroy, and now
needs to be deal with, not only privately, but at a level far beyond
this or any other newsgroup.

Thanks for understanding.

Sincerely, John Sisker (714) 536-3850
You made a nasty post about me after I praised Ray for doing
business the right way. You said I knew nothing about you.
Well John, I have watched you post for many months here and your
only purpose seems to be insulting other travel agents, breaking
the charter as often as possible with no remorse, and pandering for
customers while displaying a stunning lack of knowledge of the
cruise industry. Enough said dude. Your a terrible travel agent and
any one who books with you deserves what they get. By the way, you
have been in my kill file for awhile now. I just refreshed the
newsgroup and caught your ignorant retort. Agreeing with the
biggest lunatic troll on the group "Chrissy Cruiser" makes you look
even more foolish than you already did. And that is a feat of near
impossibility. I have passed the name of your so called agency
around to the many cruise groups I belong to and have asked them to
spread the word that you are an unqualified agency that has no
business in the cruise industry. Hopefully no one I know will get
stung by you incompetence.
Ari:

If I made any so called "nasty" comments about you personally,
believe me, it was only in response to those you chose to make about
me and my agency first. The same actually holds true for a few others
as well; for most of my correspondence within this newsgroup is
either press releases or adding what I can to personal inquiries. In
addition, I obviously can't break Charter rules when they seem to be
nothing more than an exercise in double-standards.

In reality, the very first time I even saw your name was when you
immediately chose to align yourself with those who make it a habit of
maligning others, and you quickly followed suit against me
personally.

In addition, your personal decision to now pass my name and agency
around to the many cruise groups; that I am an unqualified an
incompetent agent that has no business in the cruise industry, was a
very poor choice indeed, and now one that has crossed the lines of
harassment. Your conscious decision to purposely try to undermine and
jeopardize a 20+ year business, and all without even bothering to
check my online credentials, will now be dealt as such.

Good luck sailing now,
John Sisker, SHIP-TO-SHORE CRUISE AGENCY
(714) 536-3850 or toll free at (800) 724-6644 & (Agency No.
714.536.3850)
www.shiptoshorecruise.com
George Dance
2010-06-28 03:21:54 UTC
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On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 23:08:34 -0400, John Sisker wrote:
n article <***@mid.individual.net>, johnSPAMNOT31
@fastmail.fm says...
I came across this newsgroup several months ago
welcome to the petting zoo.
when I really wanted some
information about a cruise. I
Wrong place to look for that here.
didn't find what I was looking for but I
continued to look at postings (and very occasionally contribute) for reasons
that I suspect are masochistic. It is the funniest ng I have ever seen,
There are many that make this one look tame in comparison.
but
I don't think that the denizens of it really look at it in that light.
Many do, but not the core clique of a dozen or so that live and
breathe rtc. You know who they are.
Most
of the exchanges are of items which refer only to one person and should
really be the subject of e-mail.
What fun would that be?
And it is so totally arrogant in that the
inmates of the group are so US-centric and make forays to the great outside
world without ever really, in the cultural sense, departing from the U S of
A.
Ugly Americans.
In lots of ways it is almost incestuous.
That kind of talk around here can get you sued.
And then we have Travel Agents
of various persuasions posting news releases of mind-bogglingly unimportant
trivia at incessantly frequent intervals just so that they can include their
web addresses in their sig.
Except for Googleberg, who the core clique has decided they're just
fine with.
Ninety per cent plus of it is just puerile
almost beyond description.
Stick around. It will get to be more fun to poke with a stick.
Charles
2010-06-28 03:25:14 UTC
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Look, I don't agree with what this guy did (sounds like a lawsuit in the
making)
And do you know if this "private e-mail" is for real? Sisker could
have made it up. I would not take Sisker's word for it.

Or someone else could have made it up and forged Bonham's name on it
and sent it to Sisker. We know there are troublemakers who do that.

And since Sisker can't trace the e-mail because it came with a phony
e-mail address, then isn't going to be able to prove that it came from
Silverstein, even if he actually did send it.

I have had my disagreements with Bonham, but if I knew Bonham's e-mail
address, which I don't, I sure would not snitch it out to Sisker, so
he can harass Silverstein. Sisker destroyed his own reputation with
his own words and actions, he needs no help from Silverstein in that
regard.
--
Charles
John Sisker
2010-06-28 03:27:59 UTC
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Post by Charles
Look, I don't agree with what this guy did (sounds like a lawsuit in the
making)
And do you know if this "private e-mail" is for real? Sisker could
have made it up. I would not take Sisker's word for it.
Or someone else could have made it up and forged Bonham's name on it
and sent it to Sisker. We know there are troublemakers who do that.
And since Sisker can't trace the e-mail because it came with a phony
e-mail address, then isn't going to be able to prove that it came from
Silverstein, even if he actually did send it.
I have had my disagreements with Silverstein, but if I knew his's e-mail
address, which I don't, I sure would not snitch it out to Sisker, so
he can harass Silverstein. Sisker destroyed his own reputation with
his own words and actions, he needs no help from Silverstein in that
regard.
I think I better go for Silverstein's actual home mailing address now,
and not just his e-mail address. Likewise, as to the once again
incorrect speculations from the paranoid, this entire scenario is
definitely something I would not waste my time or effort on in just
making up. There would be absolutely no point or reason for me to do
so. Therefore, the negative comments in this regard from another,
once again, holds no water whatsoever.

As to Ari's real e-mail address, he just revealed that to me
personally, for a short one-on-one communication, yet, only to once
again change it. Yet, now I have written proof and actual
confirmation of who this actually came from. I guess he feels it is
hard to find a moving target, but eventually find him I will. What
happens after that, that would not really be up to just me anymore.
But nip this in the bud I must and will.

John Sisker - SHIT-TO-SHORE CRUISE AGENCY®
(714) 536-CUNT or toll-free at (800) 724-CUNT & (Agency ID:
714.536.CUNT)
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George Leppla
2010-06-28 03:29:31 UTC
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Post by John Sisker
I think I better go for Silverstein's actual home mailing address now,
and not just his e-mail address. Likewise, as to the once again
incorrect speculations from the paranoid, this entire scenario is
definitely something I would not waste my time or effort on in just
making up. There would be absolutely no point or reason for me to do
so. Therefore, the negative comments in this regard from another,
once again, holds no water whatsoever.
As to Ari's real e-mail address, he just revealed that to me
personally, for a short one-on-one communication, yet, only to once
again change it. Yet, now I have written proof and actual
confirmation of who this actually came from. I guess he feels it is
hard to find a moving target, but eventually find him I will. What
happens after that, that would not really be up to just me anymore.
But nip this in the bud I must and will.
The way I see it, you can either sue him or send a couple of goons
over to his place to rough him up a bit.

For a lawsuit.... this is what they call a "Nyah, Nyah" or "Neener,
Neener" kind of case. All you will have to do is cite the
posts/messages/emails
that Bonham "says" he sent.... then prove damages.

OTOH... finding a couple of gorillas with bent noses whose knuckles
drag the ground when they walk should be pretty easy and depending on
the size of their frontal lobes, might be pretty cheap. Tom K and
Charles and some other people live in the New York, New Jersey area
and they might be able to help you out. Or maybe you could look at
www.muscle-for-hire.com

Of course, you have to actually FIND Silverstein before you can do
anything. I suggest you check the following website for help with the
entire process.... http://tinyurl.com/yuyzap

Good hunting!
--
George Leppla

Cuntryside Travel http://www.Cuntryside-Travel.com
www.yobt.com/fat.html
John Sisker
2010-06-28 03:30:42 UTC
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Post by George Leppla
The way I see it, you can either sue him or send a couple of goons
over to his place to rough him up a bit.
For a lawsuit.... this is what they call a "Nyah, Nyah" or "Neener,
Neener" kind of case. All you will have to do is cite the
posts/messages/emails
that Bonham "says" he sent.... then prove damages.
OTOH... finding a couple of gorillas with bent noses whose knuckles
drag the ground when they walk should be pretty easy and depending on
the size of their frontal lobes, might be pretty cheap. Tom K and
Charles and some other people live in the New York, New Jersey area
and they might be able to help you out. Or maybe you could look at
www.muscle-for-hire.com
Of course, you have to actually FIND Silverstein before you can do
anything. I suggest you check the following website for help with the
entire process.... http://tinyurl.com/yuyzap
Good hunting!
Sarcasm came through loud and clear George. And in response, yes,
goons would be cheaper. If I did consider that route, maybe you would
take the job. Didn't your threaten to drive your pick-up truck
through someone's house some time ago, when they disagreed with you?
However, that may not be such a good solution after all. I bet you
don't even have a pick-up truck that can make it that far.

No, as for now I'll stick to plan "A".

John Sisker - SHIT-TO-SHORE CRUISE AGENCY®
(714) 536-CUNT or toll-free at (800) 724-CUNT & (Agency ID:
714.536.CUNT)
www.shittoshorecruise.com / www.tinplatehomes.com >
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George Leppla
2010-06-28 03:31:54 UTC
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Post by John Sisker
Sarcasm came through loud and clear George. And in response, yes,
goons would be cheaper. If I did consider that route, maybe you would
take the job. Didn't your threaten to drive your pick-up truck
through someone's house some time ago, when they disagreed with you?
However, that may not be such a good solution after all. I bet you
don't even have a pick-up truck that can make it that far.
Uhhhhh........... no. Never happened.

I don't know what the Hell you are talking about, but then, neither do
you.

Put down the Egg Nog and do a Google search and show where I ever said
that. Or apologize for accussing me of something I never did.

Oh... and I haven't owned a pick-up truck for a few years.

Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
--
George Leppla

Cuntryside Travel http://www.Cuntryside-Travel.com
www.yobt.com/fat.html
John Sisker
2010-06-28 03:33:24 UTC
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Post by George Leppla
Post by John Sisker
Sarcasm came through loud and clear George. And in response, yes,
goons would be cheaper. If I did consider that route, maybe you would
take the job. Didn't your threaten to drive your pick-up truck
through someone's house some time ago, when they disagreed with you?
However, that may not be such a good solution after all. I bet you
don't even have a pick-up truck that can make it that far.
Uhhhhh........... no. Never happened.
I don't know what the Hell you are talking about, but then, neither do
you.
Put down the Egg Nog and do a Google search and show where I ever said
that. Or apologize for accussing me of something I never did.
Oh... and I haven't owned a pick-up truck for a few years.
Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
To get back to this so-called threat by George, I have this on
reliable information, and from my privy to other's e-mails about him
and his antics, which are NOT Google-able by the way, so he can stop
with this cyber-arm wrestling that he is trying to pull. Apparently,
the guy whom he threatened with his truck has been dead for several
years, was from NJ (when GL lived in PA), so that hopefully will jog
the memory of George a bit.

Seemingly, the person George threatened with his truck years ago had
the initials of F.L. Hopefully George, this should remind you not to
lie about this, as the guy's son is an entertainment attorney out of
LA, and still looks in on this newsgroup now and then. I'm sure he
knows about it, and may happily want to shed additional light on the
situation.

John Sisker - SHIT-TO-SHORE CRUISE AGENCY®
(714) 536-CUNT or toll-free at (800) 724-CUNT & (Agency ID:
714.536.CUNT)
www.shittoshorecruise.com / www.tinplatehomes.com >
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George Leppla
2010-06-28 03:34:41 UTC
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Post by John Sisker
To get back to this so-called threat by George, I have this on
reliable information, and from my privy to other's e-mails about him
and his antics, which are NOT Google-able by the way, so he can stop
with this cyber-arm wrestling that he is trying to pull. Apparently,
the guy whom he threatened with his truck has been dead for several
years, was from NJ (when GL lived in PA), so that hopefully will jog
the memory of George a bit.
Seemingly, the person George threatened with his truck years ago had
the initials of F.L. Hopefully George, this should remind you not to
lie about this, as the guy's son is an entertainment attorney out of
LA, and still looks in on this newsgroup now and then. I'm sure he
knows about it, and may happily want to shed additional light on the
situation.
You mean Fred Lanyard? LOL!!!!!!!! You have my permission to post
any email (private or otherwise) that I wrote where I threatened to
drive my pick-up into Fred's house. You can also get Fred's son to
post anything he has. PLEASE show me any email that I sent where I
threatened anyone.

You claim you are "privy" to this info... so let's have it!

Nah... that won't happen, will it, John. You are as full of shit this
week as you were last week.
--
George Leppla

Cuntryside Travel http://www.Cuntryside-Travel.com
www.yobt.com/fat.html
Charles
2010-06-28 03:36:44 UTC
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Post by George Leppla
Post by John Sisker
To get back to this so-called threat by George, I have this on
reliable information, and from my privy to other's e-mails about him
and his antics, which are NOT Google-able by the way, so he can stop
with this cyber-arm wrestling that he is trying to pull. Apparently,
the guy whom he threatened with his truck has been dead for several
years, was from NJ (when GL lived in PA), so that hopefully will jog
the memory of George a bit.
Seemingly, the person George threatened with his truck years ago had
the initials of F.L. Hopefully George, this should remind you not to
lie about this, as the guy's son is an entertainment attorney out of
LA, and still looks in on this newsgroup now and then. I'm sure he
knows about it, and may happily want to shed additional light on the
situation.
You mean Fred Lanyard? LOL!!!!!!!! You have my permission to post
any email (private or otherwise) that I wrote where I threatened to
drive my pick-up into Fred's house. You can also get Fred's son to
post anything he has. PLEASE show me any email that I sent where I
threatened anyone.
You claim you are "privy" to this info... so let's have it!
Nah... that won't happen, will it, John. You are as full of shit this
week as you were last week.
Sisker is resorts to innuendo and slander. And he worries about what
Silverstein says. LOL. Sisker has destroyed his own reputation.
--
Charles
John Sisker
2010-06-28 03:38:24 UTC
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Post by Charles
Sisker is resorts to innuendo and slander. And he worries about what
Silverstein says. LOL. Sisker has destroyed his own reputation.
Said before, but obviously need repeating. The hypocrites of the
high-seas are quite predictable now. Unfortunately, being insulted by
this select few is no longer any fun - or even challenging anymore.
No one is really saying anything new, just repeating the same old
lines, almost word for word, no matter what category or what is being
said. That just shows us that they really have nothing of actual
value to say. When they do, and it is beneficial, only then will I
respond, but will never lower myself to their level.

John Sisker - SHIT-TO-SHORE CRUISE AGENCY®
(714) 536-CUNT or toll-free at (800) 724-CUNT & (Agency ID:
714.536.CUNT)
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Atheist Chaplain
2010-06-28 09:00:51 UTC
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one would assume from the sig line in the "Sisker" posts that we have a
troll in our midst
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Scientology International]
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your
Christ." Gandhi
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Jean O'Boyle
2010-06-28 09:25:42 UTC
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Post by Atheist Chaplain
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your
Christ." Gandhi
Gandhi went to HELL as all non Christians do.

--Jean In Christ
Atheist Chaplain
2010-06-28 13:00:50 UTC
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Post by Jean O'Boyle
Post by Atheist Chaplain
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your
Christ." Gandhi
Gandhi went to HELL as all non Christians do.
--Jean In Christ
no such place as hell, but carry on with your delusion :-)
--
[This comment is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Church of
Scientology International]
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your
Christ." Gandhi
Jean O'Boyle
2010-06-28 19:50:48 UTC
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Post by Atheist Chaplain
Post by Jean O'Boyle
Post by Atheist Chaplain
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your
Christ." Gandhi
Gandhi went to HELL as all non Christians do.
--Jean In Christ
no such place as hell, but carry on with your delusion :-)
You will be the first of the Damned to cry out in undiluted,
nondelusional pain when those tips of fire scorch your soul.

--Jean (Saved)
Pete
2010-06-28 20:44:29 UTC
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Post by Jean O'Boyle
Post by Atheist Chaplain
Post by Jean O'Boyle
Post by Atheist Chaplain
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your
Christ." Gandhi
Gandhi went to HELL as all non Christians do.
--Jean In Christ
no such place as hell, but carry on with your delusion :-)
You will be the first of the Damned to cry out in undiluted,
nondelusional pain when those tips of fire scorch your soul.
--Jean (Saved)
Oh! At least us non-saved may ultimately have the chance to discuss
photography in the newsgroup alt.photography, maybe even chat to
deceased non-saved photographers.

The best way you can help me is by indicating which photography manuals
would be the most appropriate to read for each possibility of my soul's
final destination. Only when I have this information will I be able to
make a decision about what I choose to believe. Don't say "Either Nikon
or Canon" because we've already gone through hell over that debate.
--
Pete
Jean O'Boyle
2010-06-28 20:49:33 UTC
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Post by Pete
Post by Jean O'Boyle
Post by Atheist Chaplain
Post by Jean O'Boyle
Post by Atheist Chaplain
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your
Christ." Gandhi
Gandhi went to HELL as all non Christians do.
--Jean In Christ
no such place as hell, but carry on with your delusion :-)
You will be the first of the Damned to cry out in undiluted,
nondelusional pain when those tips of fire scorch your soul.
--Jean (Saved)
Oh! At least us non-saved may ultimately have the chance to discuss
photography in the newsgroup alt.photography, maybe even chat to
deceased non-saved photographers.
Enjoy your earthly freedoms, HELL will not be kind to you very soon.
Post by Pete
The best way you can help me is by indicating which photography manuals
would be the most appropriate to read for each possibility of my soul's
final destination. Only when I have this information will I be able to
make a decision about what I choose to believe. Don't say "Either Nikon
or Canon" because we've already gone through hell over that debate.
Jesus is all you need to have a belief. Not some lousy material thing
like a camera.

--Jean--> Owns no camera; not interested in earthly wealth
Pete
2010-06-28 22:45:22 UTC
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Post by Jean O'Boyle
Post by Pete
Post by Jean O'Boyle
Post by Atheist Chaplain
Post by Jean O'Boyle
Post by Atheist Chaplain
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your
Christ." Gandhi
Gandhi went to HELL as all non Christians do.
--Jean In Christ
no such place as hell, but carry on with your delusion :-)
You will be the first of the Damned to cry out in undiluted,
nondelusional pain when those tips of fire scorch your soul.
--Jean (Saved)
Oh! At least us non-saved may ultimately have the chance to discuss
photography in the newsgroup alt.photography, maybe even chat to
deceased non-saved photographers.
Enjoy your earthly freedoms, HELL will not be kind to you very soon.
Post by Pete
The best way you can help me is by indicating which photography manuals
would be the most appropriate to read for each possibility of my soul's
final destination. Only when I have this information will I be able to
make a decision about what I choose to believe. Don't say "Either Nikon
or Canon" because we've already gone through hell over that debate.
Jesus is all you need to have a belief. Not some lousy material thing
like a camera.
--Jean--> Owns no camera; not interested in earthly wealth
Then refrain from posting your messages to alt.photography.
--
Pete
Jean O'Boyle
2010-06-29 00:24:15 UTC
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Post by Pete
Post by Jean O'Boyle
Post by Pete
Post by Jean O'Boyle
Post by Atheist Chaplain
Post by Jean O'Boyle
Post by Atheist Chaplain
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your
Christ." Gandhi
Gandhi went to HELL as all non Christians do.
--Jean In Christ
no such place as hell, but carry on with your delusion :-)
You will be the first of the Damned to cry out in undiluted,
nondelusional pain when those tips of fire scorch your soul.
--Jean (Saved)
Oh! At least us non-saved may ultimately have the chance to discuss
photography in the newsgroup alt.photography, maybe even chat to
deceased non-saved photographers.
Enjoy your earthly freedoms, HELL will not be kind to you very soon.
Post by Pete
The best way you can help me is by indicating which photography manuals
would be the most appropriate to read for each possibility of my soul's
final destination. Only when I have this information will I be able to
make a decision about what I choose to believe. Don't say "Either Nikon
or Canon" because we've already gone through hell over that debate.
Jesus is all you need to have a belief. Not some lousy material thing
like a camera.
--Jean--> Owns no camera; not interested in earthly wealth
Then refrain from posting your messages to alt.photography.
When Jesus informs me, I will do as HE pleases. Until then, pot,
kettle, black, Hypocritical Man Of Satan.

--Jean
Pete
2010-06-29 00:45:56 UTC
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Post by Jean O'Boyle
Post by Pete
Post by Jean O'Boyle
Post by Pete
Post by Jean O'Boyle
Post by Atheist Chaplain
Post by Jean O'Boyle
Post by Atheist Chaplain
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your
Christ." Gandhi
Gandhi went to HELL as all non Christians do.
--Jean In Christ
no such place as hell, but carry on with your delusion :-)
You will be the first of the Damned to cry out in undiluted,
nondelusional pain when those tips of fire scorch your soul.
--Jean (Saved)
Oh! At least us non-saved may ultimately have the chance to discuss
photography in the newsgroup alt.photography, maybe even chat to
deceased non-saved photographers.
Enjoy your earthly freedoms, HELL will not be kind to you very soon.
Post by Pete
The best way you can help me is by indicating which photography manuals
would be the most appropriate to read for each possibility of my soul's
final destination. Only when I have this information will I be able to
make a decision about what I choose to believe. Don't say "Either Nikon
or Canon" because we've already gone through hell over that debate.
Jesus is all you need to have a belief. Not some lousy material thing
like a camera.
--Jean--> Owns no camera; not interested in earthly wealth
Then refrain from posting your messages to alt.photography.
When Jesus informs me, I will do as HE pleases. Until then, pot,
kettle, black, Hypocritical Man Of Satan.
--Jean
GFUSS
--
Pete
Jean O'Boyle
2010-06-29 01:41:47 UTC
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Post by Jean O'Boyle
Post by Pete
Post by Jean O'Boyle
Post by Pete
Post by Jean O'Boyle
Post by Atheist Chaplain
Post by Jean O'Boyle
Post by Atheist Chaplain
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your
Christ." Gandhi
Gandhi went to HELL as all non Christians do.
--Jean In Christ
no such place as hell, but carry on with your delusion :-)
You will be the first of the Damned to cry out in undiluted,
nondelusional pain when those tips of fire scorch your soul.
--Jean (Saved)
Oh! At least us non-saved may ultimately have the chance to discuss
photography in the newsgroup alt.photography, maybe even chat to
deceased non-saved photographers.
Enjoy your earthly freedoms, HELL will not be kind to you very soon.
Post by Pete
The best way you can help me is by indicating which photography manuals
would be the most appropriate to read for each possibility of my soul's
final destination. Only when I have this information will I be able to
make a decision about what I choose to believe. Don't say "Either Nikon
or Canon" because we've already gone through hell over that debate.
Jesus is all you need to have a belief. Not some lousy material thing
like a camera.
--Jean--> Owns no camera; not interested in earthly wealth
Then refrain from posting your messages to alt.photography.
When Jesus informs me, I will do as HE pleases. Until then, pot,
kettle, black, Hypocritical Man Of Satan.
--Jean
Post by Pete
Post by Jean O'Boyle
horrible Satanic swearing and taking the Lord's Name vainly.
I now have "Pete" killfiled and suggest *strongly* that everyone else
do the same. In Jesus name, I pray for this damned child of Satan.

--Jean
Sue Mullen
2010-06-29 01:44:27 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jean O'Boyle
Post by Jean O'Boyle
Post by Pete
Post by Jean O'Boyle
Post by Pete
Post by Jean O'Boyle
Post by Atheist Chaplain
Post by Jean O'Boyle
Post by Atheist Chaplain
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike
your
Christ." Gandhi
Gandhi went to HELL as all non Christians do.
--Jean In Christ
no such place as hell, but carry on with your delusion :-)
You will be the first of the Damned to cry out in undiluted,
nondelusional pain when those tips of fire scorch your soul.
--Jean (Saved)
Oh! At least us non-saved may ultimately have the chance to discuss
photography in the newsgroup alt.photography, maybe even chat to
deceased non-saved photographers.
Enjoy your earthly freedoms, HELL will not be kind to you very soon.
Post by Pete
The best way you can help me is by indicating which photography manuals
would be the most appropriate to read for each possibility of my soul's
final destination. Only when I have this information will I be able to
make a decision about what I choose to believe. Don't say "Either Nikon
or Canon" because we've already gone through hell over that debate.
Jesus is all you need to have a belief. Not some lousy material thing
like a camera.
--Jean--> Owns no camera; not interested in earthly wealth
Then refrain from posting your messages to alt.photography.
When Jesus informs me, I will do as HE pleases. Until then, pot,
kettle, black, Hypocritical Man Of Satan.
--Jean
Post by Pete
Post by Jean O'Boyle
horrible Satanic swearing and taking the Lord's Name vainly.
I now have "Pete" killfiled and suggest *strongly* that everyone else
do the same. In Jesus name, I pray for this damned child of Satan.
--Jean
Well done, Jean! I have sent an email to all of RTC to killfile "Pete"
and they will respond assuredly. His moral compass is bent, who needs
Internet trash like him? Vile trolls, one and all and the photo group
appears to be overrun with them.
--
sue
Jean O'Boyle
2010-06-29 01:48:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sue Mullen
Post by Jean O'Boyle
Post by Jean O'Boyle
Post by Pete
Post by Jean O'Boyle
Jesus is all you need to have a belief. Not some lousy material thing
like a camera.
--Jean--> Owns no camera; not interested in earthly wealth
Then refrain from posting your messages to alt.photography.
When Jesus informs me, I will do as HE pleases. Until then, pot,
kettle, black, Hypocritical Man Of Satan.
--Jean
Post by Pete
Post by Jean O'Boyle
horrible Satanic swearing and taking the Lord's Name vainly.
I now have "Pete" killfiled and suggest *strongly* that everyone else
do the same. In Jesus name, I pray for this damned child of Satan.
--Jean
Well done, Jean! I have sent an email to all of RTC to killfile "Pete"
and they will respond assuredly. His moral compass is bent, who needs
Internet trash like him? Vile trolls, one and all and the photo group
appears to be overrun with them.
--
sue
Thanks, Sue. Most of these photo types have dark rooms full of
dripping negatives pornographic. Jesus cast them into the dark because
he does not want His Light smudged by their perversities.

Much like John Sisker and his collection of nudes and other perverse
material.

--Jean
Sue Mullen
2010-06-29 01:52:28 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jean O'Boyle
Post by Sue Mullen
Post by Jean O'Boyle
Post by Jean O'Boyle
Post by Pete
Post by Jean O'Boyle
Jesus is all you need to have a belief. Not some lousy material thing
like a camera.
--Jean--> Owns no camera; not interested in earthly wealth
Then refrain from posting your messages to alt.photography.
When Jesus informs me, I will do as HE pleases. Until then, pot,
kettle, black, Hypocritical Man Of Satan.
--Jean
Post by Pete
Post by Jean O'Boyle
horrible Satanic swearing and taking the Lord's Name vainly.
I now have "Pete" killfiled and suggest *strongly* that everyone else
do the same. In Jesus name, I pray for this damned child of Satan.
--Jean
Well done, Jean! I have sent an email to all of RTC to killfile "Pete"
and they will respond assuredly. His moral compass is bent, who needs
Internet trash like him? Vile trolls, one and all and the photo group
appears to be overrun with them.
--
sue
Thanks, Sue. Most of these photo types have dark rooms full of
dripping negatives pornographic. Jesus cast them into the dark because
he does not want His Light smudged by their perversities.
Much like John Sisker and his collection of nudes and other perverse
material.
--Jean
Right, Jean! I remember when Sisker tried to approach me on one of our
cruises to pose for him claiming it was au natural and that we were
born naked so everything would be OK. He, Pete, and the other photo
bugs will rot and burn as Jesus' kindling for those ever glowing fire
from Hades that awaits each and everyone of those filthy creeps.
--
sue with Jean with Jesus Our Savior
Atheist Chaplain
2010-06-29 13:54:11 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jean O'Boyle
Post by Atheist Chaplain
Post by Jean O'Boyle
Post by Atheist Chaplain
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your
Christ." Gandhi
Gandhi went to HELL as all non Christians do.
--Jean In Christ
no such place as hell, but carry on with your delusion :-)
You will be the first of the Damned to cry out in undiluted,
nondelusional pain when those tips of fire scorch your soul.
--Jean (Saved)
Proof??
I thought not, just more hearsay and delusions from your imaginary friend
LOL
--
[This comment is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Church of
Scientology International]
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your
Christ." Gandhi
John Sisker
2010-06-28 03:43:35 UTC
Permalink
Post by Charles
Sisker is resorts to innuendo and slander. And he worries about what
Silverstein says. LOL. Sisker has destroyed his own reputation.
As for Leppla's so-called Frank Lanyard threat incidents, even though
it has apparently been around 10 years ago, others are trying to find
that old information for me as we speak. However, even as they said,
they also know Leppla would just say they are forged or produces by
me in an effort to made him look bad.

From my understanding, it appears George was jealous of Fred because
he was so well-liked and respected. Seemingly, when Fred started
dabbling in the TA business, Leppla started to give him a bad time,
like he has to me and a few others ... in fact, from my
understanding, what he is trying to do me is almost exactly like he
did with Fred. All I can say about that is, at least I am in good
company, yet, am not buying any of this crap that Leppla pulls.

However, I think another response or two by me make be appropriate as
Leppla no-doubt tries to spin this information in a different
direction. Yet, facts are facts, and remember, this is not even
coming from me, but from highly respected and professional sources
within the industry itself. Yet, if I allow myself to digress to the
level of Leppla too much, I may indeed find myself down to the level
of a moderately successful travel agent, of which Leppla apparently
needs to strive for.

Makin bacon with the Becca hog.

John Sisker - SHIT-TO-SHORE CRUISE AGENCY®
(714) 536-CUNT or toll-free at (800) 724-CUNT & (Agency ID:
714.536.CUNT)
www.shittoshorecruise.com / www.tinplatehomes.com >
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Jean O'Boyle
2010-06-28 03:39:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by George Leppla
Post by John Sisker
To get back to this so-called threat by George, I have this on
reliable information, and from my privy to other's e-mails about him
and his antics, which are NOT Google-able by the way, so he can stop
with this cyber-arm wrestling that he is trying to pull. Apparently,
the guy whom he threatened with his truck has been dead for several
years, was from NJ (when GL lived in PA), so that hopefully will jog
the memory of George a bit.
Seemingly, the person George threatened with his truck years ago had
the initials of F.L. Hopefully George, this should remind you not to
lie about this, as the guy's son is an entertainment attorney out of
LA, and still looks in on this newsgroup now and then. I'm sure he
knows about it, and may happily want to shed additional light on the
situation.
You mean Fred Lanyard? LOL!!!!!!!! You have my permission to post
any email (private or otherwise) that I wrote where I threatened to
drive my pick-up into Fred's house. You can also get Fred's son to
post anything he has. PLEASE show me any email that I sent where I
threatened anyone.
You claim you are "privy" to this info... so let's have it!
Nah... that won't happen, will it, John. You are as full of shit this
week as you were last week.
Oooh, be careful, George, he'll go running back to mama and say you
are picking on him! LOL! In Christ's name I am...

--Jean
Charles
2010-06-28 03:45:42 UTC
Permalink
Jesus love me...
I have never met George either or booked with him but I have met a lot
of people who have met him and a lot who have booked with him. Also
many have posted here to this newsgroup who stated that they booked
with George. On the other hand none has ever told me they booked with
Sisker and I don't recall a single person who has ever posted to this
newsgroup that they booked with Sisker. It appears Sisker has had zero
success and he certainly has no respect here. He has destroyed his
reputation by his obnoxious postings.
--
Charles
Ari Silverstein
2010-06-28 03:47:01 UTC
Permalink
Post by Charles
Jesus love me...
I have never met George either or booked with him but I have met a lot
of people who have met him and a lot who have booked with him. Also
many have posted here to this newsgroup who stated that they booked
with George. On the other hand none has ever told me they booked with
Sisker and I don't recall a single person who has ever posted to this
newsgroup that they booked with Sisker. It appears Sisker has had zero
success and he certainly has no respect here. He has destroyed his
reputation by his obnoxious postings.
No one. In the decade he has been posting to RTC *no one* has booked
with him?

Aw, shit, this is truly fucking pathetically funny.
--
Need a Travel Agent that can't spell, put together a simple,
grammatically correct English sentence, self promotes himself
shamelessly across Usenet and lives in a trailer? John Sisker
John Sisker
2010-06-28 03:49:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ari Silverstein
Post by Charles
Jesus love me...
I have never met George either or booked with him but I have met a lot
of people who have met him and a lot who have booked with him. Also
many have posted here to this newsgroup who stated that they booked
with George. On the other hand none has ever told me they booked with
Sisker and I don't recall a single person who has ever posted to this
newsgroup that they booked with Sisker. It appears Sisker has had zero
success and he certainly has no respect here. He has destroyed his
reputation by his obnoxious postings.
No one. In the decade he has been posting to RTC *no one* has booked
with him?
Aw, shit, this is truly fucking pathetically funny.
Just more of the same old rhetoric from the "Hypocrites of the High
Seas". Instead of addressing a real concern, they once again are
simply trying to kill the messenger. All this useless return chatter
and speculations have been addressed before; and in spite of these
current innuendos and attempts to skirt the real issue, it is indeed
interesting how some are willing to overlook the obvious, simply
because they think they got a "good deal".

John Sisker - SHIT-TO-SHORE CRUISE AGENCY®
(714) 536-CUNT or toll-free at (800) 724-CUNT & (Agency ID:
714.536.CUNT)
www.shittoshorecruise.com / www.tinplatehomes.com >
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Violet Gail Eldridge
2010-06-28 03:50:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Sisker
Post by Ari Silverstein
Post by Charles
Jesus love me...
I have never met George either or booked with him but I have met a lot
of people who have met him and a lot who have booked with him. Also
many have posted here to this newsgroup who stated that they booked
with George. On the other hand none has ever told me they booked with
Sisker and I don't recall a single person who has ever posted to this
newsgroup that they booked with Sisker. It appears Sisker has had zero
success and he certainly has no respect here. He has destroyed his
reputation by his obnoxious postings.
No one. In the decade he has been posting to RTC *no one* has booked
with him?
Aw, shit, this is truly fucking pathetically funny.
Just more of the same old rhetoric from the "Hypocrites of the High
Seas". Instead of addressing a real concern, they once again are
simply trying to kill the messenger. All this useless return chatter
and speculations have been addressed before; and in spite of these
current innuendos and attempts to skirt the real issue, it is indeed
interesting how some are willing to overlook the obvious, simply
because they think they got a "good deal".
John Sisker - SHIT-TO-SHORE CRUISE AGENCY®
714.536.CUNT)
www.shittoshorecruise.com / www.tinplatehomes.com >
Facebook/Twitter/Blog/Flickr/MyPage
John........ at 1st I thought you were just BORING. Now I really
think you are one very sick puppy. Haven't you noticed that no one
has stepped forward with a good word for you? Have you instructed
your many clients to remain quiet? Tsk, tsk. Get some help and have
a happy life.

~~GAIL~~
________ / /___/ /___/ /_________
\::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
--

Ari Silverstein
2010-06-28 03:54:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Sisker
Post by Ari Silverstein
Post by Charles
Jesus love me...
I have never met George either or booked with him but I have met a lot
of people who have met him and a lot who have booked with him. Also
many have posted here to this newsgroup who stated that they booked
with George. On the other hand none has ever told me they booked with
Sisker and I don't recall a single person who has ever posted to this
newsgroup that they booked with Sisker. It appears Sisker has had zero
success and he certainly has no respect here. He has destroyed his
reputation by his obnoxious postings.
No one. In the decade he has been posting to RTC *no one* has booked
with him?
Aw, shit, this is truly fucking pathetically funny.
Just more of the same old rhetoric from the "Hypocrites of the High
Seas". Instead of addressing a real concern, they once again are
simply trying to kill the messenger. All this useless return chatter
and speculations have been addressed before; and in spite of these
current innuendos and attempts to skirt the real issue, it is indeed
interesting how some are willing to overlook the obvious, simply
because they think they got a "good deal".
What's to kill, you have worked your as off in a newsgroup for ten
years and not one, not even one client out of how many thousands of
posts?

*LOL* Assclown U, here's your President!
--
Need a Travel Agent that can't spell, put together a simple,
grammatically correct English sentence, self promotes himself
shamelessly across Usenet and lives in a trailer? John Sisker
John Sisker
2010-06-28 03:58:41 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ari Silverstein
What's to kill, you have worked your as off in a newsgroup for ten
years and not one, not even one client out of how many thousands of
posts?
*LOL* Assclown U, here's your President!
As to the comment by another, that this situation does sound like a
lawsuit in the making; yes, that's the reason for this original post.

And yes, I also said that no-doubt there will be some who think I am
getting what I deserve anyway. Obviously, there was no hesitation
with them telling us all why. Yet, all this off-target dialogue has
been brought up before; signature lines are indeed acceptable by
Charter rules, and are not considered advertising per se. The
interpretation, and apparent double-standard, is with those who feel
Goldenberg's and Leppla's signature lines are perfectly acceptable,
while mine is obviously spamming and advertising. Yet, I simply
followed the same exact format of Ray's, so there would be no
problem. Go figure!

Likewise, don't give me credit for what one called the ruining of
this newsgroup; for changes have apparently been taking place long
before I even surfaced. I'm obviously just an convenient excuse for
what's really going on. Besides, I don't think it's ruined at all,
just restructured with more relevant information; while the social
butterflies realize that this was not their own private social
clique.

And just for your information, sometime ago I did drop my signature
line altogether. This was also at the encouragement of others on this
newsgroup, and to hopefully start a precedence for others to follow
as well. The bottom line is, it didn't work, with both Goldenberg and
Leppla being the biggest hold-outs. And just as bad, the personal
insults, name calling, sarcasm, innuendos and speculations did not
even slow down one bit. So, there was obviously no point in me
continuing with that exercise in futility.

In addition, I also agree that personal responses should really be
through a private e-mail, but they seldom are. I think the reason
should be quite obvious. Some simply like to stir the pot and
seemingly show the newsgroup that they are still around.

As to the related value of press releases, who actually determines
that? The bottom line is, if a press release is of no interest to
you, then don't read it. While some information may be of no interest
to one, it may indeed be to another. Therefore, none of us should be
screening out what others have access to, based only on our personal
preferences.

And now we have Leppla, who mysteriously always seems to surface in
things like this, much as a moth would be to a flame. Yet, nothing
new is ever said, just the same old vengeance spread around where he
feels appropriate. As to Leppla's snide comment about veiled threats,
it's actually funny for him to be so quick to judge. What does he
think this original post is all about? And, of course, there is
always the Joystar matter, which is still being investigated.
Naturally, one had to chose their battle wisely, and to also make
sure there is really something there - plus the timing has to be
right as well.

This obviously won't be the last word in this type of post, when
others also see the opportunity to get in on the bashing. But, as I
said before, that's certainly expected with some. Yet, since I have
broad shoulders, it's best for me at this time to actually stick to
the intent of this original post, for that is where priorities now
need to be. I am however making some progress, I now know what state
Silverstein lives in.

John Sisker - SHIT-TO-SHORE CRUISE AGENCY®
(714) 536-CUNT or toll-free at (800) 724-CUNT & (Agency ID:
714.536.CUNT)
www.shittoshorecruise.com / www.tinplatehomes.com >
Facebook/Twitter/Blog/Flickr/MyPage
Ari Silverstein
2010-06-28 04:01:27 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Sisker
Post by Ari Silverstein
What's to kill, you have worked your as off in a newsgroup for ten
years and not one, not even one client out of how many thousands of
posts?
*LOL* Assclown U, here's your President!
As to the comment by another, that this situation does sound like a
lawsuit in the making; yes, that's the reason for this original post.
And yes, I also said that no-doubt there will be some who think I am
getting what I deserve anyway. Obviously, there was no hesitation
with them telling us all why. Yet, all this off-target dialogue has
been brought up before; signature lines are indeed acceptable by
Charter rules, and are not considered advertising per se. The
interpretation, and apparent double-standard, is with those who feel
Goldenberg's and Leppla's signature lines are perfectly acceptable,
while mine is obviously spamming and advertising. Yet, I simply
followed the same exact format of Ray's, so there would be no
problem. Go figure!
Likewise, don't give me credit for what one called the ruining of
this newsgroup; for changes have apparently been taking place long
before I even surfaced. I'm obviously just an convenient excuse for
what's really going on. Besides, I don't think it's ruined at all,
just restructured with more relevant information; while the social
butterflies realize that this was not their own private social
clique.
And just for your information, sometime ago I did drop my signature
line altogether. This was also at the encouragement of others on this
newsgroup, and to hopefully start a precedence for others to follow
as well. The bottom line is, it didn't work, with both Goldenberg and
Leppla being the biggest hold-outs. And just as bad, the personal
insults, name calling, sarcasm, innuendos and speculations did not
even slow down one bit. So, there was obviously no point in me
continuing with that exercise in futility.
In addition, I also agree that personal responses should really be
through a private e-mail, but they seldom are. I think the reason
should be quite obvious. Some simply like to stir the pot and
seemingly show the newsgroup that they are still around.
As to the related value of press releases, who actually determines
that? The bottom line is, if a press release is of no interest to
you, then don't read it. While some information may be of no interest
to one, it may indeed be to another. Therefore, none of us should be
screening out what others have access to, based only on our personal
preferences.
And now we have Leppla, who mysteriously always seems to surface in
things like this, much as a moth would be to a flame. Yet, nothing
new is ever said, just the same old vengeance spread around where he
feels appropriate. As to Leppla's snide comment about veiled threats,
it's actually funny for him to be so quick to judge. What does he
think this original post is all about? And, of course, there is
always the Joystar matter, which is still being investigated.
Naturally, one had to chose their battle wisely, and to also make
sure there is really something there - plus the timing has to be
right as well.
This obviously won't be the last word in this type of post, when
others also see the opportunity to get in on the bashing. But, as I
said before, that's certainly expected with some. Yet, since I have
broad shoulders, it's best for me at this time to actually stick to
the intent of this original post, for that is where priorities now
need to be. I am however making some progress, I now know what state
Silverstein lives in.
Did you guess Florida? Everglades City?

By Golly, how strange is that?

*LOLOLOLOLOL*
--
Need a Travel Agent that can't spell, put together a simple,
grammatically correct English sentence, self promotes himself
shamelessly across Usenet and lives in a trailer? John Sisker
Jean O'Boyle
2010-06-28 03:48:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by Charles
Jesus love me...
I have never met George either or booked with him but I have met a lot
of people who have met him and a lot who have booked with him. Also
many have posted here to this newsgroup who stated that they booked
with George. On the other hand none has ever told me they booked with
Sisker and I don't recall a single person who has ever posted to this
newsgroup that they booked with Sisker. It appears Sisker has had zero
success and he certainly has no respect here. He has destroyed his
reputation by his obnoxious postings.
I'm so glad you finally see Sisker for what he is. He prattles on and
on aimlessly and digs his own grave, then runs to "Mama" (someone in
his organization to whom he pays dues to belong) and complains that
he is being maligned...I hope that those people start reading rtc
and see what drivel he posts here. And I only see what is included
in other's posts. How can anyone trust someone who is so envious and
behaves so childishly? Maybe someone should call Joystar and tell
them to read his drivel here and google all his past posts. Would
they be in for a surprise!

I do know George Leppla, have used him as my travel agent many times
and have always been very satisfied with his service. Not once have I
been disappointed with any of the bookings that he has made for
me..I'm going on my 39th cruise in a few days and I can highly rate
his knowledge and expertise. I have used several different T/As, so I
speak from actual experience. He is very easy to deal with, looks out
for his clients' best interests and is most pleasant on the phone...A
far more different personality than Sisker, let me tell you.

Just yesterday, I, as well as probably all his other clients, got an
e-mail from George thanking us for our patronage this past year and
he told us that November was one of the best months that he has ever
had and that he had no need to advertise as referrals were coming in
from current customers and business was great....Score: Leppla
10...Sisker 0...It gave me a good laugh when Sisker even COMPARED
himself to Leppla..
George Leppla
2010-06-28 03:52:59 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Sisker
Post by George Leppla
Post by John Sisker
Sarcasm came through loud and clear George. And in response, yes,
goons would be cheaper. If I did consider that route, maybe you would
take the job. Didn't your threaten to drive your pick-up truck
through someone's house some time ago, when they disagreed with you?
However, that may not be such a good solution after all. I bet you
don't even have a pick-up truck that can make it that far.
Uhhhhh........... no. Never happened.
I don't know what the Hell you are talking about, but then, neither do
you.
Put down the Egg Nog and do a Google search and show where I ever said
that. Or apologize for accussing me of something I never did.
Oh... and I haven't owned a pick-up truck for a few years.
Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
To get back to this so-called threat by George, I have this on
reliable information, and from my privy to other's e-mails about him
and his antics, which are NOT Google-able by the way, so he can stop
with this cyber-arm wrestling that he is trying to pull. Apparently,
the guy whom he threatened with his truck has been dead for several
years, was from NJ (when GL lived in PA), so that hopefully will jog
the memory of George a bit.
Seemingly, the person George threatened with his truck years ago had
the initials of F.L. Hopefully George, this should remind you not to
lie about this, as the guy's son is an entertainment attorney out of
LA, and still looks in on this newsgroup now and then. I'm sure he
knows about it, and may happily want to shed additional light on the
situation.
I'll translate that for you..... you have nothing. You'll post
nothing because you have nothing... except idle speclation from
people who don't know the facts about something that happend over ten
years ago.

Keep digging, John.
--
George Leppla

Cuntryside Travel http://www.Cuntryside-Travel.com
www.yobt.com/fat.html
John Sisker
2010-06-28 03:59:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by George Leppla
I'll translate that for you..... you have nothing. You'll post
nothing because you have nothing... except idle speclation from
people who don't know the facts about something that happend over ten
years ago.
Keep digging, John.
George,

(re: Fred Lanyard threats by Leppla)

Well, at last your very own words acknowledged that indeed we are on
the right track here. "The facts about something that happened over
ten years ago"... pretty much sums this up George. Now, we just need
to fill in some additional details. Yet, for a minute, I actually
thought you were going to deny this Fred Lanyard threat incident once
again. However, even though it has been around 10 years, and I
obviously was not on any newsgroup at that time, many others were -
and actually do remember quite vividly. Apparently, your personal
goading of me today, along with firing-up your kool-aid drinkers, is
exactly what you did to Fred - and almost word for word from my
understanding. However, as I said before, and from my understanding,
I am in good company, for at least Fred was indeed very well liked.

Seemingly, the one's who do remember exactly what took place back
then, are not the one beating their chest now and yelling the
loudest, and who in turn are all basically saying nothing of any
value. The objective now is to gather actual facts of exactly how and
why you would threaten Fred, so sooner or later those fact will
surface as these silent lurkers of the past are now starting to be
heard. Naturally, they choose not to expose their exact identities at
this time, because of the obvious bashing they would no-doubt
receive. Yet, I don't mind speaking for them if you will, and they
are the one's on my logical client base for this newsgroup anyway,
for they all know this newsgroup was once a valuable entity before
all the hypocrites, spin doctors, and ass-kissers took over.

John Sisker - SHIT-TO-SHORE CRUISE AGENCY®
(714) 536-CUNT or toll-free at (800) 724-CUNT & (Agency ID:
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George Leppla
2010-06-28 04:02:53 UTC
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Post by John Sisker
(re: Fred Lanyard threats by Leppla)
Well, at last your very own words acknowledged that indeed we are on the
right track here. "The facts about something that happened over ten years
ago"... pretty much sums this up George. Now, we just need to fill in some
additional details.
If I have this straight... unknown and un-named people are telling you
about something that happend ten years ago but you can't or won't
identify them and don't have any proof or facts to post to back up
your accusations or the tings they are telling you.
Post by John Sisker
Naturally, they choose not to expose their
exact identities at this time, because of the obvious bashing they would
no-doubt receive. Yet, I don't mind speaking for them if you will,
Anyone who would let you speak for them has rocks in their head. Or
their head between your rocks.
--
George Leppla

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www.yobt.com/fat.html
John Sisker
2010-06-28 04:04:06 UTC
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Post by George Leppla
Post by John Sisker
(re: Fred Lanyard threats by Leppla)
Well, at last your very own words acknowledged that indeed we are on the
right track here. "The facts about something that happened over ten years
ago"... pretty much sums this up George. Now, we just need to fill in some
additional details.
If I have this straight... unknown and un-named people are telling you
about something that happend ten years ago but you can't or won't
identify them and don't have any proof or facts to post to back up
your accusations or the tings they are telling you.
Post by John Sisker
Naturally, they choose not to expose their
exact identities at this time, because of the obvious bashing they would
no-doubt receive. Yet, I don't mind speaking for them if you will,
Anyone who would let you speak for them has rocks in their head. Or
their head between your rocks.
Let's cut right to the chase George... "Did you or did you not
threaten another regular member on this newsgroup with physical
violence?" This way, we can by-pass all this side-stepping of your,
and see if I actually need to present more information and quote
other sources. And I can also get back to finding Silverstein's
mailing address.

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George Leppla
2010-06-28 04:05:12 UTC
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Let's cut right to the chase George... "Did you or did you not threaten
another regular member on this newsgroup with physical violence?"
John, if you keep humping my posts, you are going to make yourself
sore.

If I were going to get physical with someone, the last thing I would
do is warn them. They would just wake up one day wondering who
turned out the lights. In your case, the lights are never on so it
would be a moot point. <vbg>
And I can also get back to finding Bonham's mailing address.
Looking stupid may get you some short-term attention but it gets
depressing after a while.

Can't you be an idiot a little more quietly?
--
George Leppla

Cuntryside Travel http://www.Cuntryside-Travel.com
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Ari Silverstein
2010-06-28 04:10:52 UTC
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Post by George Leppla
Let's cut right to the chase George... "Did you or did you not threaten
another regular member on this newsgroup with physical violence?"
John, if you keep humping my posts, you are going to make yourself
sore.
If I were going to get physical with someone, the last thing I would
do is warn them. They would just wake up one day wondering who
turned out the lights. In your case, the lights are never on so it
would be a moot point. <vbg>
And I can also get back to finding Silverstein's mailing address.
Looking stupid may get you some short-term attention but it gets
depressing after a while.
Can't you be an idiot a little more quietly?
Hey, hey, you two twats quit pirating Sisker's thread. He has hard
work to do, looking for my ass and trying to insert his humongous head
in it. lOL

NOBODY who talks and writes like Sisker to prove themselves as a "big
mean dog on Usenet" has an ounce of respect from anybody. It's a funny
thing, go figure, there's just something about that white trailer
trash talk that grates on the nerves of any one with a lick of sense.

John, you're pure shit! Even if you hadn't come right out and told us
what a childish, vindictive little twat you are we'd know why you
were repeatedly ignored.

Thank your lucky stars you can hide behind a keyboard whilst acting
like a 2 year old. If you did it in real life you'd likely have your
teeth manually removed.
--
Need a Travel Agent that can't spell, put together a simple,
grammatically correct English sentence, self promotes himself
shamelessly across Usenet and lives in a trailer? John Sisker
Savageduck
2010-06-28 04:17:20 UTC
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On 2010-06-27 20:59:58 -0700, John Sisker <***@trailerpark.com> said:


Can you guys keep this BS Flame War out of alt.photography.
--
Regards,

Savageduck
Ari Silverstein
2010-06-28 04:27:43 UTC
Permalink
Post by Savageduck
Can you guys keep this BS Flame War out of alt.photography.
Sure just keep your sporging cross-trolling assclown Charles
Hardwedgie out of ours.

Deal?
--
Need a Travel Agent that can't spell, put together a simple,
grammatically correct English sentence, self promotes himself
shamelessly across Usenet and lives in a trailer? John Sisker
Your Name
2010-06-28 04:30:01 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ari Silverstein
Post by Savageduck
Can you guys keep this BS Flame War out of alt.photography.
Sure just keep your sporging cross-trolling assclown Charles
Hardwedgie out of ours.
Deal?
Charles was performing a civil service exposing John Sisker as a
spamming fraud.
Ari Silverstein
2010-06-28 04:31:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by Your Name
Post by Ari Silverstein
Post by Savageduck
Can you guys keep this BS Flame War out of alt.photography.
Sure just keep your sporging cross-trolling assclown Charles
Hardwedgie out of ours.
Deal?
Charles was performing a civil service exposing John Sisker as a
spamming fraud.
Good point, my apologies to Hardwedgie, he can troll RTC anytime he
wants.
--
Need a Travel Agent that can't spell, put together a simple,
grammatically correct English sentence, self promotes himself
shamelessly across Usenet and lives in a trailer? John Sisker
Corey
2010-07-15 03:12:45 UTC
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To: Savageduck
Re: Re: Looking For Ari Silverstein
By: Savageduck to rec.travel.cruises,alt.photography,alt.mobilehome,alt.disney.disneyland on Sun Jun 27 2010 09:17 pm
Post by Savageduck
Can you guys keep this BS Flame War out of alt.photography.
--
Regards,
Savageduck
and Disneyland too.
Ari Silverstein
2010-06-28 04:37:48 UTC
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Post by John Sisker
I think I better go for Silverstein's actual home mailing address now,
and not just his e-mail address.
You'll have to be more precise, Sisker, you want my one ON the beach
in Naples, my hunting lodge in Everglades City, my home ON the golf
course in Naples or my rentals in South Walton County (Rosemay Beach)?
Post by John Sisker
As to Ari's real e-mail address, he just revealed that to me
personally, for a short one-on-one communication, yet, only to once
again change it. Yet, now I have written proof and actual
confirmation of who this actually came from. I guess he feels it is
hard to find a moving target, but eventually find him I will. What
happens after that, that would not really be up to just me anymore.
But nip this in the bud I must and will.
Fucking lie, my Yahoo account has been active for years.
--
Need a Travel Agent that can't spell, put together a simple,
grammatically correct English sentence, self promotes himself
shamelessly across Usenet, after a decade on Usenet never has
obtained a single client and lives in a trailer? John Sisker
Atheist Chaplain
2010-06-28 08:56:10 UTC
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Post by John Sisker
Post by Charles
Look, I don't agree with what this guy did (sounds like a lawsuit in the
making)
And do you know if this "private e-mail" is for real? Sisker could
have made it up. I would not take Sisker's word for it.
Or someone else could have made it up and forged Bonham's name on it
and sent it to Sisker. We know there are troublemakers who do that.
And since Sisker can't trace the e-mail because it came with a phony
e-mail address, then isn't going to be able to prove that it came from
Silverstein, even if he actually did send it.
I have had my disagreements with Silverstein, but if I knew his's e-mail
address, which I don't, I sure would not snitch it out to Sisker, so
he can harass Silverstein. Sisker destroyed his own reputation with
his own words and actions, he needs no help from Silverstein in that
regard.
I think I better go for Silverstein's actual home mailing address now,
and not just his e-mail address.
hire a lawyer then and fuck off from the groups with your spamming and
stalking behaviour
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Christ." Gandhi
Ari Silverstein
2010-06-28 03:45:54 UTC
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Right here, Johnnie. Am I in twubble?lol
--
Need a Travel Agent that can't spell, put together a simple,
grammatically correct English sentence, self promotes himself
shamelessly across Usenet and lives in a trailer? John Sisker
John Sisker
2010-07-18 02:55:50 UTC
Permalink
Please note that Ari is once again guilty of identity theft and is forging
my name, along with that of others as well (as he has a long history of
doing with many here and in other newsgroups). Note the difference between
the headers from my post warning others of his actions and his forged post.

John Sisker
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